Video: Josh Zive

Kentuckian Dwight Yoakam on coal (from "Paradise"):

Well, the coal company came with the, world’s largest shovel,
They tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Lord, they dug for their coal ‘til the ground was forsaken
And wrote it all down as the, “Progress of man.”

And, “Daddy, won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County?
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay?”
He said, “I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mr. Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away.”

Josh Zive responds:



Note: Video of Yoakam singing this song can be found here.

Law. Bond Law.

This one is about Credit Applications:

Video: Joel Goldman

Mystery writer and former KU debater Joel Goldman:

ALR

Andrea (1984-1988)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Andrea has her own law firm in Jackson, Wyoming. The firm seems to specialize in real estate, construction, and employment matters.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

Well, she has argued before the Supreme Court...of Wyoming. More than once.

And she was quoted briefly in this Jackson Hole News item.

4. What else do we know?

At one point, Andrea was a registered lobbyist. Fresh out of law school, she was a staff attorney for the Wyoming Supreme Court.

The law firm of Chambers and Partners has this blurb about her on its website:

Hard-working Andrea Leah Richard of The Richard Law Firm PC is a "forceful advocate" who practices business and general commercial litigation alongside real estate law. She is "a good, detail-oriented attorney" who is very strong on land use planning issues and "brings muscle to a development team to get things approved."

Muscle, eh?

pdl

Paul (1979-1983)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Paul is a debate coach for Cornell University. I'm not 100% sure of his current responsibilities. Maybe this?

Previously, he was an attorney in Wichita, KS. Apparently, he worked at Snow Hodge & Edwards.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

Sort of. Paul received a "write-in" vote for District Judge and another for District Attorney in the Sedgwick County (KS) elections, November 2, 2004.

4. What else do we know?

Previously, Paul was a graduate debate assistant for Wake Forest.

He's also still a smoker.

JCZ

Josh (1990-1994)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?

2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Josh is a lawyer in the Washington office of Bracewell & Giuliani (yes, that one). The firm seems to specialize in "government relations," which is DC code for lobbying.

Now available in Spanish!

Try to guess whether or not he's a partner:

"Everybody says they have an open door policy, but at Bracewell we really mean it," pointed out Josh Zive, who is a government relations attorney in Bracewell's D.C. office. "The partners at Bracewell treat associates as colleagues and go out of their way to include associates in the most important and interesting aspects of their work."

Hmmm.

2017 Update: Bracewell page.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

Well, Josh was "the BBC's election law expert for international press coverage" on the 2004 Presidential contest.

4. What else do we know?

Josh is a Jayhawk hoops fan.

He's spent way too much time thinking about O.J. Then again, he loves the courts.

JBR

Jim (1981-1985)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Jim is an attorney with Baird, Williams and Greer, LLP in Phoenix, Arizona.

It's a lively practice, apparently:

Jim garnished over $100,000 from a trust originating with the sinking of the Titanic.

Take that James Cameron!

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

Often. In 2000, Jim was the Gore/Lieberman national director for disability outreach. On one occasion, he debated his counterpart in the Bush/Cheney campaign at the National Press Club!

Jim has also worked on health policy issues for Joe Lieberman's 2004 campaign, Howard Dean's campaign and Kerry/Edwards.

Though none of these candidates won their elections, Jim has continued to press for important legal and medical rights for the disabled.

4. What else do we know?

In 2003, BizAZ recognized Jim as one of 14 "Up and Coming" lawyers in the state.

In 2000, Jim was an "observation team leader" in the Florida count/recount.

Screen Actors Guild candidate (and '80s babe) Morgan Fairchild is one of his clients!


Unfortunately, like Gore, Lieberman, Dean and Kerry... Fairchild lost.

MA-R

Martie (1984-1985)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Martie is a law partner in the Wichita, Kansas firm, Foulston Siefkin, LLP.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

Yes, Martie was profiled by Wichita's bizwomen.com website.

And remember, no lawyer is responsible for the (alleged) behavior of her client.

4. What else do we know?

She gives talks for "medical group management" audiences. She's an expert on medical records privacy.

KMF

Kevin

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Kevin is an attorney for Frieden, Haynes & Forbes in Topeka, KS.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

Yes. Thanks to Kevin's practice, Anthem, Inc. is in no danger of bankruptcy. Don't ask about the health insurance premiums. He is trying, however, to reduce electric bills to make up for that.

It appears that Kevin offers the same advice to his clients that he used to give to his debate colleagues:

Fowler said his client would remain silent on even the most mundane questions because a response might open the door to more serious questions.

4. What else do we know?

Kevin is arguably the former Jayhawk debater most able to kick your butt. So don't send him any hate mail.

Look what Kevin said about Kansas insurance commissioner Kathleen Sebelius:

"She was usurping authority that was never given to her in the first place," said Kevin Fowler, a Topeka lawyer representing Indianapolis-based Anthem Insurance Cos.

Anyone ever say that about the HJ?

CP-J

   Carolyn

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?

She's on the left.

2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Carolyn is a Lecturer in the Department of Political Science, University of Kansas.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

When U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg visited KU earlier this year, the Daily Kansan reported this:

Visits can help personify some of the material law students study, said Carolyn Porto Johnson, an adjunct lecturer in political science.

"They benefit by getting to see the person who writes the opinions that they’ll be studying," she said, "and they’ll be studying them a lot."

This April, the University marked her 15 years of service.

4. What else do we know?

Carolyn serves as the Interim Director/Volunteer Coordinator with the Douglas County Court Appointed Special Advocate.

Oh, here's the family...at work, or play?

And haven't we seen that guy somewhere else?

ELC

Eric

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



Eric is the one on the right.

2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Eric is a lawyer for the Snohomish Washington Public Utility District.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

You could say that. This is from the San Francisco Chronicle, June 27, 2004:

Eric Christensen unearthed Grandma Millie.

The soft-spoken, mild-mannered lawyer for a publicly owned utility in northwest Washington, Christensen also dug up “Burn, baby, burn.” And “He steals money from California to the tune of about a million (a day).” And “I got three more hours to congest.” And a host of other explosive and incriminating discussions from traders at the energy giant Enron.

"Wow, these guys are really crooked bastards," said Snohomish lawyer Eric Christensen.

Check out Eric's press clippings: CNN, the Washington Post, CBS News, USA Today, etc. And, of course, US Representative Jay Inslee (D-Wash) is a fan.

4. What else do we know?

Eric's boss, PUD General Counsel Mike Gianunzio, likes him:

"Eric is pretty much an unsung, quiet guy who's willing to work very hard. He works in the weeds and digs the dirt out," his boss said. "If we hadn't done this stuff, we basically would have had to pay Enron, and they would have gotten away with that fraud."

In 1999, Eric publicly blasted a mining company's "consigliere" for advocating "environmentally destructive corporate welfare."

JMG

Mark (1979-1983)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Mark is an anti-trust lawyer in Washington, DC. Specifically, he is a partner for White & Case LLP.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

This is from the National Review Online, November 4, 2000:

"The debate community is a very tight-knit community," says Mark Gidley, a former University of Kansas debater. "You spend 40 to 60 hours a week on it, going to tournaments 16 times a year that run from Thursday to Sunday, and you do this for a couple of years. You see the same people over and over."

The point of this story was to finger Al Gore advisor Mark Fabiani for helping to leak then-candidate George W. Bush's DUI. A former Bates debater, Tom Connolly, revealed the arrest to the national media and NRO wanted to know if Connolly and Fabiani knew each other from college debate.

4. What else do we know?

Mark wrote this to the Federal Trade Commission, January 5, 2000:

"Protecting individual privacy is one of the greatest challenges we face going into this new era of web-based flow of information."

Ironic, eh?

I've got to get some newer material.

SMG

Steve (1975-1979)

Let's hope Steve and his family are dry and safe.

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Steve is a law professor at Tulane University in New Orleans.

It beats working, I guess. (If that link doesn't work, try this).

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

In 2000, Steve told the Florida legislature that they could not simply appoint presidential electors that they liked. From the AP, December 11, 2000:

[Bruce] Ackerman [a Yale law professor], Griffin and [Kim Lane] Scheppele [of the University of Pennsylvania] are three of 37 constitutional lawyers who signed a letter to the Legislature expressing concern that the proposed appointment of electors by lawmakers was illegal. The letter, written by Griffin, said in part there is ``no lawful way'' to appoint electors after a certified election has been held.

He has also served Tulane as "Vice Dean." For those thinking prurient thoughts, I don't think that position is as sexy as it sounds.

4. What else do we know?

Steve isn't impressed with Republican federalism. Mobile Register, July 3, 2005:

[S]ome analysts see a widening disconnect with the GOP's traditional belief in restraints on Washington's authority.

"I think many people would have expected some relief once Republicans controlled all three branches of government, but that hasn't happened," said Stephen Griffin, a constitutional law professor at Tulane University in New Orleans. "If there is an important policy objective that they really care about, states' rights just doesn't deter them."

Slate quoted him on August 25, 2005, on the question of a "living constitution," which is relevant to the John Roberts confirmation.

RWH III

'chard (1979-1983)

1. What does this past Kansas debater look like now?



2. What does this ex-debater now do for a living?

Personal injury lawyer in Texas.

3. Has this former debater been "in the news"?

This is from the San Antonio Express-News, March 30, 2005:

"[W]e're going to...get to the bottom of this illegal steering," said Smith's lead attorney, Richard Hunnicutt.

I'm not sure what that is, but it sounds like a Texas thing.

4. What else do we know?

Well, this endorsement sounds somehow familiar:

"Alex Miller is one of the best and brightest appellate lawyers around...bar none"

Richard W. Hunnicutt, III
San Antonio,Texas

Did 'chard once say this? "Dr. Parson is the nicest, kindest man in the whole world."